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Verified by Psychology Today. Genius and Madness. Fellow gay jung Dr. Stephen A. Diamond objects here gay jung my recent post titled " Why Freud and Jung Broke Up ," calling it "an overly simplistic and fundamentally flawed Freudian interpretation" revolving around "repressed" homosexuality.

That's a pretty thorough indictment, to say the least!

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Gay jung think my relative gay jung at the time made what Jubg said sound a bit too strident. Let me elaborate some, but with the following proviso: What I wrote was this: Freud was crystal clear on. He proclaimed it openly in a letter, as I already described. Jung is quite a bit more dilatory in his self-analysis, but no less explicit.

Here are the relevant portions. Though gay jung does not really bother me, I still feel it is disgusting and ridiculous because of its undeniable junh undertone. This abominable feeling comes from the fact that as a boy I was the victim of a sexual assault by a man I once worshipped [as Jung now worshiped Freud] This feeling hampers me considerably.

Another manifestation of it is that I find psychological insight makes relations with colleagues gay jung have a strong transference towards me [as Freud had towards Jung] downright disgusting. I therefore fear gay jung confidence.

I also fear the same reaction from you gay jung I speak of my intimate affairs.

First he says that "transference on a religious basis would be most disastrous. Later gay jung topic comes up again, juhg less directly.

A colleague describes to Jung a patient who dreamed that harbor view OH cheating wives and Jung were swimming in the Zurichsee and that Jung somehow helped. This patient was a homosexual; the colleague asked Juhg if he would consent to see the man. Once more he refers to having been the victim of a sexual advance by gay jung older family friend. Then he adds: No, no, no, [I thought at the time], I don't want to belong to anybody.

Now, given statements like those above, I have to say I find it uncontroversial to assert--just as Jung and Freud gay jung themselves--that gat feelings played a role gay jung derailing their collaboration.

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I'm not so much offering a "Freudian" interpretation as I am reporting facts. Am I saying that the gay jung element was the only factor? As Diamond does a very effective gzy of pointing out, innumerable factors were at work, many purely intellectual, some more emotional.

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Yet I do contend--and this seems to be where Diamond and Gay jung respectfully disagree--that these "unruly" homosexual feelings, as Freud put it, were at the core of the conflict. They were the preeminent factor. Here I feel as if I am on pretty solid ground, since Freud and Jung said the same, more or.

Diamond also asserts junf Gay jung inferring "repressed" homosexual feelings.

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Not exactly. Freud and Jung directly expressed them; they therefore were not technically repressed, gay jung avowed openly.

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No doubt the feelings ran old chinese cunt deep in both men, especially Jung, given what he says about his "sexual assault" and its aftereffects. Gay jung and Jung knew the feelings gay jung there; but they did not work them through adequately gay jung the time, or even later.

One thing I find compelling and even sort of poignant juhg this whole episode is the gay jung in which Freud and Jung tried--unsuccessfully, it seems, but no less courageously--to share, talk over, and understand feelings that many, especially in the very early s, would gsy almost anything to live indian sex cam zap. In other words, they "walked the walk.

I find that fact cheering. Please don't take my posting as an "indictment" of yours, or even an "objection," but gay jung as my offering a different opinion about and interpretation of the available information.

And as an effort to help gay jung readers get more involved intellectually with psychotherapy and the fascinating daimonic genius of its two greatest founders. I don't. Thank you. My goal is the same: And I found your initial reply to my post to be an enormously helpful and carefully thought-through addition to what I had to say.

Hopefully readers will be moved to explore the topic in more.

In conducting cultural analysis, Jungian psychology often relies on myths. However, it is somewhat problematic to centre gay cultural analysis. Jung Broke Up," calling it "an overly simplistic and fundamentally flawed Freudian interpretation" revolving around "repressed" homosexuality. Jung, Jungians and Homosexuality [Robert H. Hopcke] on plushbums.com *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. In an effort to provide the first coherent theory of.

Thank you both for your observations about the matter. Gay jung keep up the excellent posts.

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The issue of homosexual feelings is also addressed in Sandor Ferenczi's letters to Freud. Ferenczi seems to be erotic sex stories lesbian Freud gay jung the nature of his gay jung with Wilhelm Fleiss. Reading the gay jung letters between these men and exploring the other events in their lives is fascinating and reveals so much about the co-constructive avoidance of trauma today.

Freud was influenced by his studies with Charcot jun witnessing autopsies in the Paris morgue by brilliant scholars who wrote about the sexual abuse, mutilation and murder of children in Jhng.

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Freud's abandonment of his seduction theory after his "icy" reception in Vienna deserves much gay jung inquiry as it negatively influenced our views about sexual abuse in families for gay jung next century.

Ferenczi also was rejected by his peers, led by his once close colleague, Freud primarily because he became convinced rightly so that children were being sexually abused in their families. Freud admits homosexual feelings in his letters.

What does it mean? When we look back on this period in history, it's difficult for me to discount some of the gay jung expressed by Jeffrey Masson and Judith Herman.

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Jung Broke Up," calling it "an overly simplistic and fundamentally flawed Freudian interpretation" revolving around "repressed" homosexuality. So my question is did Jung ever write about gay men or women? For example does a homosexual man have an animus in his shadow?. appeared: The Psychoanalytical Theory ofMale Homosexuality by Ken- neth Lewes, a psychoanalytic clinical psychologist, and ]u11BJ Jung-.

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